Laurellian, I'm not quite sure what you are going on about. I certainly don't think that a British soldier is mother teresa in a tin hat and nor should he/she be.And yes they do sometimes make mistakes, they are only human and as humans we all do! At no time did I, or I think John, suggest that people signing up to the armed forces didn't expect to kill someone. My point was that alot of them sign up realising that one day they may have to go to war and kill people but it doesn't mean that they want to kill people and that is the key difference. The armed forces is not just about going to war it is a way of life for people that serve, something that a civilian with no previous military experience would not understand. It is a life of discipline, friendship, teamwork and pride; something which the civilian world is severely lacking. As for you Peter, that will teach me to try and catch you out; I should have known that you look after your workers abroad and ensure a fair deal for them. My apologies for suggesting otherwise.

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