It seems that John and Alan think that a British soldier is Mother Teresa in a tin hat. It doesn't matter how brave our soldiers are in Iraq, what matters is that the 'regime change' we undertook is illegal under internatinal law. I know Saddam was cruel and needed getting rid of, but two wrongs don't make a right. John! What makes you an authority on the British armed forces? I am not saying that the British army is bad (in my opinion we are proud to have the best military in the world and an impressive military history) but a person who signs up to be a soldier (not a mechanic, medic, recording officer etc...) must expect to fight the enemy at some point, it might be from a computer screen on a warship or in a silo, it might be 20,000 feet above them, or it might be eye-to-eye in a city (the most brutal and dangerous war arena), and when they do fight the enemy they are going to have to kill. In a warzone as we constantly hear, it is kill or be killed, make sure a corpse is a corpse etc... And sometimes, a soldier will get it wrong, he'll target the wrong encmpment, or the wrong plane, or miss or his targeting system will fail, and he will cause 'collateral damage'. Anyone who signs up for a combat role in the army and doesn't expect to have to kill at some point is in my opinon, naiive