yeah, I'm an immoral exploiting bastard. A bastard who will in December pay a £40 000 tax bill for the half year to help pay the army's wages. 40% of most of what I earn goes immediately in income tax, plus 17 .5% VAT on what I buy, plus taxes on wages of people I keep in work in UK. Only a dozen or so these days directly, but a lot indirectly. So whose pockets do I line, Alan? ANd how much does moral, non-exploiting John contribute to the national coffers when he isnt questioning my morality? Eh John? And, by the way, I pay every last penny of tax. I could quite easily keep most of the money out of UK and evade tax. But being an immoral bastard I happen to believe in paying taxes. As for exploiting? Well, in Shanghai we pay about $100-$130 a month, which is about 20% above the going rate for manchinists in China, and 4 times higher than our employees would get as farmers, which they used to do. We overpay purely to get the best, but well above the norm. So, sorry, mate, youre wrong there too. And the factory passes ethical audit, if that means anything to you. It means it meets standards of working conditions required by the best importers. Proper working conditions, proper facilities, food, heat, light, accommoddation, restr breaks, holidays, no child labour etc. The final irony is that we were obliged to move to China in the 90s when economic conditions forced it on us. Before we did so, we spent a lot of time lobbying MPs in order to find ways of keeping the work here. It was impossible, of course. But I always remember writing to a couple of LABOUR MPs , poining out that tousands of testile jobs in their constituencies were under threat and asking their help. They never even bothered to reply.