thank you for those kind words, matty. I havent gone. I'm just not prepared to "debate" with people who try to censor what their opponents say, people who are happy to insult and arguably libel my MP in print but who complain if anybody is less than polite to them in return. They are not worth arguing with. If you could ever be bothered to look back on the history of this website, you will see a few people, notably Dave Wilson, and hopefully myself, made large numbers of very specific points which the labour party supporters never attempted to address. So there was very little "debate" any way. Just a lot of not very intelligent party line cliches. You mention Iraq. Just look at their silence on it. Dave and others have thrown endless points about Iraq at them, and they have ignored almost all of them, choosing instead to pursue a childish and ultimately disproved argument about Christies, resorting to endlessly splitting hairs over the precise meaning of words like "closure" in a desperate attempt to avoid the overall spirit of the situation , which arose from the fact nobody locally will trust labour when it comes to closing hospitals. So I backec out. They will ignore 500 words about Iraq, but whinge about the use of a word like "moron". They don't have the wit to defend their corner - with the intermittent exception of Alan . As for the one going to work at Portin Down, well, sorry, but in my youth weu se to try and close that place down. It's the UK centre for research on chemical and biological warfare and is a scar on the face of britain