Martin, to be honest I could bleet on and put a bit of spin on it but without looking, which if you would like I'll do, I can't give specific examples! The prob I've got with John is that all he seems to do is council duties, as admirable as they may be, and sign EDM's!! What, if anything, of substance has he done... party politics aside, how has he contributed to the constituency as a whole and how well has he represented Manchester Withington in Parliament... which after all is his job!