Oddly enough, there is a very good article in Guardian today advocating the total scrapping of all selective schools, be it grammar schools, faith schools etc, so that ALL kids went to comprehensives, on the grounds that a lot of the brightest kids get sucked out of the system and that makes it more difficult for state schools to shine. Well worth reading. I find it impossible to argue with the artcle's logic. And I also think that if all those middle class parents were forced to send their kids to local comprehensives, including MPs (!) and PMs (!!) , they'd make damned sure the schools performed. And it would stop various religions sowing bigotted or separatist ideas into kids' heads, for that matter. I've often thought how daft it is that middle classes moan about how much tax they pay, and then merrily cough up £150 a week - £200 before tax - to pay for each kid's schooling, then another £50 a week before tax for BUPA health insurance. If only a small part of that was going into state education and health and being used properly, they wouldn't need the private sector to begin with. Which brings us back to a point made by Dave earlier - higher taxes. Only an idiot will reject higher taxes if it buys better services. It just needs explaining and executing properly. I would also like to point out that my son had no part in the deaths of those teachers and has cast-iron alibis in each case