Peter, I agree with what you say completely but do you not agree that schools like MGS differ from state schools in the sense that unruly kids are discouraged from going due to the exams. State schools, certainly the one that I went to was excellent yet unruly, disruptive kids who didn't want to learn disrupted those that did. Whole lessons were ruined because people made it their mission to disrupt them. I don't know, perhaps private schools have the same problem but for state schools to become what they should be, a major effort needs to be made in order to deal with unruly pupils who stop others from learning, and at my school gave several good teachers nervous breakdowns!

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