Wonderful. John Ellis, whoever he is, takes the time to write a well thought-out critique of Labour's failings.

And what response does he get?

"You Fibs have never understood that in the grown up world of governing sometimes you have to give people what they need not what they want."

From Labour Supporter. That sentence epitomizes why people like me walked away from labour. And You just don't get it, do you Labour Supporter?

I'm old enough to remember being lectured by Labour Party Student activists in 1965 - the generation now in power -how the working class were too stupid to know what was good for them.

Condescending elitist crap. Plus ca change....

As for Lib Dems having "more people on the ground", you STILL don't get it , do you? John Leech has a tremendous following amongst ordinary electors, not because he's a Lib Dem, but because he and his colleagues have been "on the ground " 52 weeks a year for years. They don't just show up at election time. They roll up there sleeves and get stuck in on local people's behalf week in and week out, being the people's representative, not sitting in some ivory tower deciding to "give people what they need, not what they want". Like Marie Louise Gardens recently. JL's been involved from day 1 helping out . Or when the Paupers' Wood thing happened a few months ago. He's there fighting our corner. That's why we believe him, not you about Christies. And that's why he got such a huge swing last time. Where's Labour, where's Lucy whatsit? Where are they?

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