Dave - I didn't say that "enagaging the electorate" was "a cynicalphrase". Putting words in peoples mouth is one of your less endearing qualities. Please stop doing it and some of the things you say might be taken more seriously. I meant that using the phrase is usually an indiaction that the person using it is an armchair politician or one of those people that knows what people are thinking because they speak to half a dozen people on message boards.

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