sorry, to finish the point. Dave points out 25000 deaths of innocent civilians in Iraq and you just treat it like a cheap debating point. It isn't. It's 25000 innocent people. 10 times that many bereaved relatives. All done on a pack of lies by your leader in our name , and every time you ever mention it you talk in nice clipped objective terms of somebody who certainly does NOT treat those lives as being as important and as sacred as any other life. And if you resent that, then tough. Because it's written loud and clear in the comments you make. Murder is murder, whether it's allied troopps on the rampage in falluja or some moron on the london underground with a bag full of fertliser and a detonator.

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