Dave, Don't forget the insurgents. Theyre killing 800 iraqis a month now. The Americans and the suicide bombers are more efficient than Saddam ever was. What would they do without each other? Oh, and don't forget the 500,000 children who died for lack of food and medicine during sanctions. The ones that Madeleine Albright referred to as "a price worth paying" (after all, they were only Arabs. Not as important as Westerners , eh Alan?). So, Alan, Dave doesn't need to make predictions. The numbers are already there. Alan, in your earlier texts you referred to the link between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Well, even if we didn't have one before, we've certainly got one now. Thanks George, thanks Tony. Maybe I'm naive , but I always assumed a war on terror meant wiping it out, not increasing it.