the problem with this forum dave is that whilst a minority of the labour supporters will try and argue a case and reply to a point, the majority of the replies are infantile blather which cannot be classed as debate, and does nothing more than make the posters look like idiots.
It's a pity, because Labour in genral and keith bradley in particular deserve better than that.
They had the biggest reversal in UK in this constuency at the last election and they seem to be in denial about it, attempt to put it down to underhand tactics or skulduggery rather than the reality of the combination of a hugely popular local councillor and a hugely unpopular government and , overwhelmingly, Iraq, and in the process make themselves look fools and undermine their chances of getting anywhere next time round.
If they really think that the best way of persuading ex-labour voters like you or I or my family and friends to return to labour is to call us a bunch of idiots, dismiss our beliefs about Iraq as "boring"(!!) and attempt to say we have misjudged JL when we've known him for years, then they're bloody fools.
Some like John Holliker and Sedgeley Park understand that, as does Chris Paul when he remembers to take his medication, but most of the rest...Sometimes I think we're witnessing black propaganda here by Lib Dem 5th columnists posing as particularly stupid labour supporters to undermine the labour cause. Because that is exactly what they do. Sadly, though, they may actually BE labour activists.
