Alan Exactly how many terrorists have strapped bombs to their chests in UK in the last 30 years? If you think it is worth losing all our civil liberties just because some nutter might now and then blow himself up, then you're paranoid. We lived through 30 years of IRA without needing all of this. Terrorism is being used as a pretext for a semi-police state. Which is a bit bizarre any way, since it's virtually impossible to find a copper in manchester except at football matches. Chief Constable Todd couldnt run a bath let alone a police state

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