thomas, you can't pretend this is an open unbiased forum about john leech. It was set up by people dedicated to getting rid of him. Therefore John Leech supporters are highly unlikely to bother with it.
And you can't dismiss my contributions as being in the wrong place, because they are all aimed at saying why john leech won and keith bradley lost in the first place, and the main reason for that was precisely those labour policies which drove former labour voters away from labour. So it IS relevant. A damned sight more relevant than Christies ever was.
You want those votes back? Then start being constructive, start from the point that your party screwed up big time. Then you might get somewhere.
If John does read this forum, then he must feel quietly satisfied that his opponents are so stuck in the Christies mud.
Christies ain't a "test case" Chris. It's a dead parrot.
And I don't have to prove my labour credientials to you either. For what it's worth, I'm from a coal mining family, and voting labour is second nature. It was an horrendous wrench, which still hurts, voting against them, and I feel angry and betrayed by Tony Blair and what he did. How CAN you sit there and rabbit on about Christies and never say a damned thing about how he dragged a labour party into alliance with Neoconservatives, lying to the country to drag them into a war in support of them, or removing ther right of people to free university education, without which half the current government would never have got to university? How can you say nothing about the way they've treated unions, pensioners? you know the rest. but perhaps you prefer to stick your head in the sand
