I think your questions are about right, though we know the answer to the second one. However, I would suggest that the real question is why did John Leech think it was an acceptable issue to use when it was clear that the review was not going to close the hopsital and the statement doctors signed did not suggest the hosptial would close just that they were worried about the "dislocation of services". I think that the Manchester Evening News has to take it's fair share of the blame, and I just think it is regrettable that John Leech did not research the issue thoroughly before turning up outside the hospital with a petition and a banner and campaigning. I think the most constructive thing that can happen is that John Leech respond with an apology and as he said in one newspaper "if that is jumping on the bandwagon, then fair enough". With regard to IP addresses, it's not necessarily you posting Tim, just from the same computer - its complicated. Generally when a computer connects to the internet it gets an address which is called an IP address - basically the same as any other address - which tells you where the computer is. IP addresses (in their current state) take the form of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. IP addresses are handed out in groups, and you can find out who "owns" a group of IP addresses. It is usual for someone that has broadband to had a fairly static IP address, but if you use dialup it can change regularly. So for example, someone posting from the Town Hall might post from the following IP address: 194.70.181.1, and it is possible that that IP address corresponds to inetnum: 194.70.181.0 - 194.70.181.255 netname: MANCHESTERCITCL descr: Manchester City Council The problem that occurs (which is why I said it was unlikely that you had not posted as Dave) is that sometimes IP addresses are hidden or pooled or you access the internet through a proxy server. It would appear that NTL use this feature and any visitor from an NTL connection will have an IP Address like 80.5.160.9. I apologise for jumping to conclusions, it seems likely it wasn't you.

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