Alan At least you finally accept that the Labour party lost this seat in large measure through its own failure not through John Leech's mailshots, however you may view them . Now you have to figure out how to reverse that, because you didn't just lose in line with the national swing, you got absolutely hammered. And a very large dose of humility is needed,rather than the desperate search for scapegoats and excuses that has been apparent so far (nothing personal to you). Starting with NOT insulting the intelligence of those people who voted for JL and then swallowing your pride and looking at his strong points in order to match and beat them. JOhn does a bloody good job at what he does. You guys should accept it , admire it, and figure out how to do better. Juvenile letters to local papers blaming everything on cheating by the opposition appeal to nobody but those who already agree with you and are counter-productive. They just read like unintelligent sour grapes. I make a living selling product. I do so very successfully. I have to compete against some consummately sharp operators. I never insult the competition, because that indirectly insults my clients for having bought the competition's product and just makes my job harder. Instead, I praise the competition, but make sure I offer something even better. It's called tactics. Learn it. Lib Dems are rather good at that, in case you havent noticed. They make a great play of claiming to support Labour when they agree with them. Excellent tactics.