john, Can you really see tories making headway round here? they have no base. It'll be lib dem or labour.

I don't want to see tories in power nationally any more than you do, but labour seems to be losing the plot. There must be a huge slice of the party deeply unhappy about the situation they find themselves in thanks to tony blair's insistence on being USA's european representative.

I don't personally see how gordon brown or anybody else can turn that round. Blair isn't going to give them time to establish an alternative identity. I suppose the arrogant sod doesnt want them to.


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