I've just read Alan's thing above properly, where he refers to Frank Dobson and Claire Short as "dross".

I see. Labour MPs with the guts to stand up for what they believe in are "dross" , are they?

Quoted by Labour party activist.....

As for reforming Commons, of course you're right , Alan. We need PR , so that your pals don't get a majority in parliament with only 36% of the vote.

Any grownups out there supporting the labour cause?

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