I think that if John Leech was going to stand down, then he probably would have already done so. The point that is being made is quite simple Tim, if John Leech doesn't stand down, he will remain cllr until 2008. It may well be a good idea for him to stand for relection in 2008 though - Labour will be retaking Manchester Withington at the next general election which may well be in 2009.