Do you always feel the need to be so sanctimonious? Tony Blair's labour was a means to an end. A means to get labour into power. A way that after 18 years of repressive Government normal people could finally be represnted. And of course it can't last. The party needs a leader with solid labour values; but no one ever said everything wud b perfect. In terms of a living wage. Don't tell me that as a 'thick mancunian' I don't understand. Trust me I have done some truly shit jobs. I have worked for just over half of the current minimum wage and struggled with employers for basic trade union rights. Things that should be given and not a privilege. Thats why I am grateful for the current system. I also live in a country that was blighted by unemployment in the 80s. A city that still is. Of course I want the minimum wage to be raised as it has been consistently under this labour Government. But what I don't want is for the economy to go down the tube. And no I didn't read that and no I don't think that we should make unrealistic promises. Yes to a living wage for all. No to getting rid of the prosperous society that means that today life is a lot more comfortable than it has ever been. Oh and yes I do have labour values, those same ones that have served this country well. But I would never advocate out and out socialism because it just doesn't work.