Posted by JLW on Saturday Oct 22, 06:34
A new website has been launched by mySociety called HearFromYourMP.com. If you sign up with your name and postcode, you will hear from John Leech about local issues, and can discuss them with other constituents.
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( 57 Comments )
Iain
Saturday Dec 03, 02:09
Can we have a keith bradley watch website please? or perhaps a HearFromYourExMP website?
what has he been doing since he lost his job?
hp
Sunday Dec 04, 04:26
sulking?
Alan
Sunday Dec 04, 21:27
Why not set one up Iain. As far as I am aware he is now working as a senior consultant. Furthermore, if you read the papers you would ee that he is being potentially nominated for a seat in the Lords.
peter h
Monday Dec 05, 02:59
typical labour. the public vote him out, Labour completely ignore that verdict and put him into parliament any way
peter h
Monday Dec 05, 03:00
typical labour. the public vote him out, Labour completely ignore that verdict and put him into parliament any way
Dave Wilson
Monday Dec 05, 17:33
I agree with you on that Peter, and I am glad you posted your comment twice, it needed to be re-emphasised!
Bit like that what's her name ... Lady Morris, she made a right hash of being education minister, yet gets made a peer!
Steve
Tuesday Dec 06, 03:55
Would it be silly to suggest that you don't have a right to find out KB is doing at the moment since you decided you didn't want him to be your representative anymore?
peter h
Tuesday Dec 06, 04:25
very silly, since its his supporters raising the possibility of him going to house of lords. you mean they can talk and we can't answer? which planet do you think we're on?
Dave Wilson
Tuesday Dec 06, 15:14
Peter, I think that is how the House of Lords has always worked. They talk and decide and if we try and answer back, we get charged with terrorism laws!!
Don't you just love this Democracy that Blair and Bush waffle on about, and try and push on the Middle East?
Dave Wilson
Tuesday Dec 06, 21:30
David Cameron got in I see as the new Tory leader, I wonder how many months he'll keep the job?
peter h
Wednesday Dec 07, 00:16
no dave, democracy is where the party in power has been voted in by the majority. we don't live in a democracy.
cameron will survive ok. He may even revive the tories. good luck to him. we need an opposition
Dave Wilson
Wednesday Dec 07, 15:03
Yeah I should of put democracy in inverted commas. That said, the Torie might be able to teach Tony about democracy, David Cameron got two thirds of the vote and won, if that had been Labour David Davis would have been the winner!
Alan
Wednesday Dec 07, 22:37
You two are like a couple of old women!
peter h
Thursday Dec 08, 00:42
alan, think it through. Does it not occur to you that one of the major reasons that people are so cynical about politics these days is that they feel that their views are disregarded by politicians, so they see no point in voting? And is it not true that one of the core reasons for that is that under the current system people like margaret thatcher and tony blair get massive majorities in parliament despite thet fact that they only got 45% of votes cast and 25% of available votes, effectively disenfranchinsing the majority of the electorate?
That is a travesty of democracy, and both major parties embrac e it because both get the same unethical power base when they "win" an election. And it stinks
Dave Wilson
Thursday Dec 08, 15:37
I think David Cameron and Gordon Brown will probably merge the two parties, after all, you can't tell the difference between the two, that way, they would have a clear majority, and me and Peter will have to find something else to moan about over the garden wall or down at Bingo
Alan
Friday Dec 09, 00:18
It keeps the Lib Dems out of power Peter so in my mind the current system can only be a good one. I'd sooner see Cameron in No10 than that drunken idiot who fronts Leechy's party.
peter h
Friday Dec 09, 00:22
may I suggest < Alan, that you read harold pinter's acceptance speech for the nobel prize today.
In fact I dare you to.
It's on:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,1661516,00.html.
As for keeping Lib Dems out, if you think depriving this country of democracy is a price wirth paying , then there's nothing else to say. I assume you were joking
Dave Wilson
Friday Dec 09, 02:11
Peter, I doubt Alan reads the Guardian, too liberal I would of thought?!
peter h
Friday Dec 09, 03:27
admittedly new labour supporters tend to read the daily mail these days, but I think alan is quite open-minded on the sly, so maybe he'll read it. the guardian isnt liberal, its good old fashioned nonconformist.
Dave Wilson
Friday Dec 09, 17:54
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4505874.stm
If you click on my name/link you can watch Pinter give his speech! Doubt Tony watched it though!
John Holliker
Friday Dec 09, 22:31
Is it time for tea yet?
peter h
Saturday Dec 10, 01:12
funny how nobody seems to be able to contradict what harold pinter says, ain't it?
Alan
Sunday Dec 11, 20:28
Actually I do read the Guardian but too my shame I also read, on occasions, when my brain fails to function, The Sun.... I enjoy having a laugh at the problem pages!
Tragic but true!
Alan
Sunday Dec 11, 20:31
p.s. as for my comments on the drunken ginger haired scotsman you are absolutely right I would never deny this country the democracy that we so love! However if the country voted in Kennedy as PM and the LD's as a ruling party then I would deem the country to have gone mad and get out of it asap!
peter h
Sunday Dec 11, 22:47
but alan, if we had proportional representation, then no party, be it LIb Dem, Labour or Tory, would ever be able to run this place like its personal fiefdom every again, and we wouldnt be in this mess that we are now.
There are drunks on the labour side too. Churchill was a drunk, so was Lloyd George, so was George Brown, and so are, no doubt, a few in the present government
The Sun? Read? do those words fit in the same sentence?
Dave Wilson
Monday Dec 12, 13:14
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer still. Therefore I read tabloids from time to time too, just like Alan
Alan
Monday Dec 12, 22:44
No Peter I just like the big pictures!
In fairness to Churchill, if I was running the country and directing a world war then I think I'd be on the booze alot as well.
I'm afraid I'm still a supporter of the first past the post system (as long as it keeps Labour in power that is!)PR would open up the possibility of radicals such as the BNP or the idiots in UKIP getting seats.
peter h
Tuesday Dec 13, 03:59
I see alan. you agree with democracy as long as people vote for people you approve of.
If 10% of the population vote BNP, then 10% of the seats in parlaiment should be BNP too, because parliament should reflect the people.
And thanks for explaining your idea of the best war leaders. Puts your mlitary experience into perspective
Rachel
Tuesday Dec 13, 18:18
Why all this palaver/debate about the Lib Dems getting into power?
Like thats going to happen in the near future anyway.
peter h
Wednesday Dec 14, 03:33
well said rachel. But don't tell south manchester labour. they'll sulk even more
Julian Sutton
Thursday Dec 15, 18:52
Rachel votes Green, bless her.
peter h
Friday Dec 16, 02:54
good for rachel. we thought of doing that, but they only seem to appear at election time. They don't seem to be very active round here on a day to day basis, or not obviously so? Why not?
Dave Wilson
Friday Dec 16, 15:47
I used to think that the Green party were an interesting opition, but now I don't agree with all their policies, nor do I think that in our current political climate they will ever have a chance of getting in (unless we made our "democracy" more democratic!)
Julian Sutton
Friday Dec 16, 19:41
What do you guys think about the Charles Kennedy situation? Are the Lib Dems about to make a costly mistake in a bid to counter the Cameron factor?
peter h
Saturday Dec 17, 05:48
leaders need charisma. It goes with the job. Kennedy hasnt got it.
He's only made any progress at all because the Tories were offering no credible opposition, and in reality, he should have made far more progress at their expense than he has done. In reality, he's probably blown the best chnce theyve had in 60 years, and failed pretty badly, even though theyve increased their seats.
If Cameron revitalises the Tories, Lib Dems will be in trouble if Kennedy stays in control.
But don't assume Cameron CAN change the tories' fortunes. He has a degree of Charisma, but it remains to be seen if he has much substance. I have my doubts, personally. The tory party is deeply split internally, and has an average age rivalling Methusela. Once the euphoria dies down, it will be interesting to see what they really add up to. I suspect it will be less than a row of beans
Dave Wilson
Monday Dec 19, 21:21
I quite like CK, better than any of the other main party leaders. Trouble with the Lib Dems is that they haven't got many high profile MP's who would make a suitable leader of the party. I like Menzies, but he is getting a little too old nowadays
peter h
Tuesday Dec 20, 04:42
yes, but it isnt you that CK has to convince. It's sound bite city.
Dave Wilson
Tuesday Dec 20, 15:16
Anyone else got the John Leech Christmas card yet? Came at the weekend.
Julian Sutton
Tuesday Dec 20, 20:05
CK does not appeal to the Tories...wait for 2006 and the lurch to the right.
Got the Xmas Card from John. Very nice to see Simon Wheale's name on it alongside Marc the Builder.
Alan
Wednesday Dec 21, 00:50
The Labour Party is beginning to upset me more and more as the days go by! Even "Two Jags" has stuck the knife in now!! Pathetic!!
peter h
Wednesday Dec 21, 22:10
calm down alan. you'll be telling us you believe in socialism next.
after 8 years in power any party starts to disintegrate. It's a law of nature. Power corrupts.
we bloody voted for JL and didnt get a christmas card. there's gratitude for you............
Alan
Thursday Dec 22, 03:48
LOL
Dave Wilson
Thursday Dec 22, 16:52
I voted for KB once and didn't get a Christmas card. Just goes to show it's well worth voting for the Lib Dems!?!?!? LOL
On a lighter note, Merry Christmas to Alan and Peter, and to Thomas (where are you nowadays, we never see you on here)
peter h
Thursday Dec 22, 22:50
you can stuff the good will up the turkey's rectum.
Have you seen what one of Tony Blair's senior aides said in the paper today about the British (his, ahem, employers)? I quote:
Brtish people are in "a difficult transitional teenage state, unwilling to be governed by its elders, but not yet possessing the capacities………to take responsibility for their own lives".
Britain as a country is unwilling to be governed by its elders and betters in the way it might be willing to be governed a generation ago but does not yet have the capacities for self government."
Well, Alan, talk your way out of that one.
I suppose it explains why you all got so ratty about John Leech winning this seat. Labour just can't get it into its fat head that we are not kids, we are not mentally subnormal, we know how to think and to make our own minds up.
Alan
Thursday Dec 22, 22:55
Don't need to get out of it Peter, he's bang on right!!You may be clever and worldly wise Peter but there are some people in this country that think the Vietnam war was in the 1990's, they have no idea who Saddam Hussein is, let alone what country he is from. There are poeple in this country that don't even know who Gordon Brown is, who George Bush is!!! All of these people have the vote Peter! Don't make the whole country out to be intellectual because it's not. In my mind Plato had it right, leave it to the philosophers and intellectuals otherwise you end up in a world of ****.
Merry Christmas to you too Dave, hope you have a good one!
John Holliker
Thursday Dec 22, 23:01
I've a sprig of mistletoe if anybody is interested...
peter h
Friday Dec 23, 04:50
alan, Your attitude, taken to its logical conclusion, is exactly what hitler did . In his case it was jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill. Either way, they didnt fit his definition of fit and proper people. So he gassed them.
You disenfranchise them.
You sit there, you define how to measure somebody's worth , and you say those which don't meet your definition shouldn't have the vote.
Either you're joking or youre a fascist.
Alan
Saturday Dec 24, 14:01
Did I say they shouldn't have the vote? Did I at any point suggest anyone should be gassed? I merely stated that your ridiculous view that everyone who votes has a degree of intelligenc allowing them to make the best choice for themselves and Britain is wrong. This is why we have a democratically elected government; the people cannot make these decisions for themselves. Could you manage the budget Peter? Perhaps, in your mind, with the help of some tenage shop assistants you could. ets. however, get back to reality, politicians are there to make decisions on our behalf; they, if you like, are the philosophers and they are surrounded by their intellectuals and together they run the country.
In conclusion then Peter, for the record, I am not a fascist, I don't want to gas anyone and I'm not sitting I'm standing.
Furthermore the reason that I am up so early on Christmas Eve, after a ridiculously long week at work, is because I still haven't had a chance to do my Christmas shopping. So off I go to be one with the massive crowds of Peter's intellectuals who have left it until today to geth their presents!!!
peter h
Sunday Dec 25, 04:16
yes alan, you did imply they shouldnt have any say in things by saying you agreed with plato that we should leave things to intellectuals etc.
And, you jammy bastard, Town on christmas eve was virtually deserted so you had the last laugh getting your christmas shopping done.
And no we don't have a democratically elected government. We have a government which the majority of voters voted against
And yes, I could handle the budget.
peter h
Tuesday Jan 10, 00:02
how come the labour lads havent jumped on lib dem's embarrassment over kenndey then?
Thomas
Tuesday Jan 10, 04:00
Well to be honest its just a bit of a pity. It was clear that the real reason he had to go wasn't really his alcoholism. And all that crap about him being courageous admitting it is just rubbish - he only did it because ITN were about to run with the story. Personally I was hoping he'd limp on until the local elections :p
Alan
Tuesday Jan 10, 17:43
I think his policies are unworkable and nothing more than fantasy but I have to say he has gone up in my estimation. Furthermore it is always sad to see someone being stabbed in the back by people who he was relying on for support; regardless of the party!
Ian
Tuesday Jan 10, 18:45
The farce of the last few days exposes what we've recognised for ages...the lib dems don't know whether to lurch left or right. Judging by the acrimonious quotes from Opik, Davies, Tongue et al, there's no love lost in their ranks.
As interesting was the staunch support for Kennedy from Manchester's Lib Dems. Simon Ashley's even dismissed notions of a leadership battle as froth and the invention of journos.
John, of course, will do what's best for John and back Ming the Merciless.
peter h
Tuesday Jan 10, 23:42
I hate to say it, but the whole lib dem leadership must have known about this for months or years , and done nothing about it.
Alcoholics may deserve sympathy for their plight, but they should not be left in positions of power because their illness renders them incapable of doing the job properly. And all the crap about his bravery in coming clean. He was FORCED to come clean after years of lying about it.
Alan
Wednesday Jan 11, 05:34
Peter said:
"..Alcoholics may deserve sympathy for their plight, but they should not be left in positions of power because their illness renders them incapable of doing the job properly..."
This must explain why Lib Dem policies are a load of crap.. maybe he gave them the 'thumbs up' when he was pissed.
Alan
Wednesday Jan 11, 05:36
By the way Peter, Happy New Year! I hope that 2006 will bring further argument and disagreement on an unparalelled scale!
peter h
Friday Jan 13, 04:33
you too alan. I'm teetotal by the way, so I wasnt pissed when I gave them the thumbs up. Or to be exact, I was pissed....off with labour.
there's an old cliche that oppositions don't win elections , it's governments that lose them, and that was the case for KB's seat, that plus lib dem strength on local issues round here.
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